Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature (My View) Part VI

Christian & Sin

My position is that a Christian no longer have a Sinful Nature because of the Redemptive Work of Christ On The Cross. As a believer, we are no longer “In Adam” but “In Christ”. We are delivered not only from the Penalty of Sin but the Power of Sin.

One of the favorite question that I am asked by the opposite camp is … “Do you sin?” If I am to answer, “I don’t sin”. I will be under ‘fire’ left, right & center. This is their expected answer because I advocated there is no more ‘Sinful Nature’ in a Christian.

When I answered that I ‘do sin’, this catch them off guard.  One of the wrong assumption that the advocates of ‘Sinful Nature’ camp hold is – ‘No Sinful Nature = No Sinning’. This is a wrong assumption!

Adam did not have a ‘Sinful Nature’ but he chose to disobeyed God.
Jesus the 2nd Adam, did not inherit the ‘Sinful Nature’. The bible says that Jesus too was tempted … but He did not sin.
‘ … He, Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted’ Heb 2:18

Christian & Sin

Let us look at the book of Romans again and see what the Apostle Paul say about “Christian & Sin”.

In the chapters of Romans, the Apostle Paul introduced to us several terms – “The Flesh”, “Mortal Body”, ” Members of your Body”.

The Flesh : This is the unregenerate “State” of a person. But when that person became a Christian, he is no longer in “The Flesh”.
Rom 8:8 “So then, those who are in ‘the flesh’ cannot please God”
Rom 8:9 “But you are not in ‘the flesh’ but in the Spirit”
Rom 8:12 “… we are debtors – not to ‘the flesh’, to live according to ‘the flesh’.”
Rom 8:1 “There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to ‘the flesh’ but according to the Spirit”

The Mortal Body: This is the physical body. This is the perishable body that is subject to decay and death. When we became Christians, we are not immediately taken up to heaven to be with God. We still remain on earth in the mortal body to fulfill our earthly assignment here.

Members of the Body: These are the faculties of the body – our senses, our appetites, our desires, our emotions, our mind … etc
God have make us “Body, Soul & Spirit”. After creation, God said it was “very good”. Our ‘Body’ & our ‘Soul’ are good when they are use according to God’s purpose and for God’s glory.

Rom 6:11 “likewise you also , reckon yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
As Christian, we should consider ourselves dead to sin but alive to God. This is how Christians should be living …’Dead to Sin but Alive to God’.

Rom 6:12 “Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lust”.
As Christian, sin no longer have power over us. Sin is no longer ‘In’ us, because of the Redemptive Work of Christ. Though Sin is no longer ‘In’ us but we are still in this mortal body and in this fallen world. In this fallen world, Christians are still subject to temptation. Because we are ‘In Christ’ , we no longer live according to ‘the flesh’ but according to the Spirit … therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body that we should obey it in its lust.

Christ has done His part – He dealt with the Penalty and the Power of Sin on the Cross. What is our part as ‘New Man’ in Christ?
Our part is :
“do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.”;
“Reckon ourselves dead to sin but alive to God”; ”
“Do not let sin reign in our mortal body” … but how do we do this?

The Apostle Paul wrote, “And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness in sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God” Rom 8:13

Rom 12:1 “I beseech you therefore brethren by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service”.

Does A Christian Still Sin?
Most likely …’Yes”. But as he grows in love with Christ, he will sin ‘less and less’. As a bride keeps herself ‘Pure’ for the Bridegroom, Christian will keep himself ‘Pure’ for Christ.
As Christian lives ‘according to the Spirit’ … he lost the desire to sin.

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  • Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature (My View) Part V

    Is There A Struggle of Flesh vs Spirit In A Believer?

    Is living according to the “Flesh” and living according to the “Spirit” an option for a believer? Does a Christian vacillate in and out of the “Flesh” and the “Spirit?”  Let’s look at what the Apostle Paul has to say about “Flesh” and “Spirit” in Rom 8: 1-14

    Spirit Over Flesh

    The term “living according to the Flesh” and “Living according to the Spirit have been used a number of times in Romans 8.
    The advocate of the Sinful Nature will use this passage of Scripture Rom 8: 1 -14 to point to the “Struggle between the Spirit and the Flesh.
    vs 13 “For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live”. To them, the believer still have to struggle to keep himself  from “living according to the flesh”. Thus to “live according to the Spirit” the believer must  submit himself to the Holy Spirit – putting to death the deeds of the body. This “struggle” with the flesh will cease only when the believer receives the glorified body from the Lord.

    Is there really a “Struggle” between the Spirit and the Flesh in a Believers Life ? 

    Context, Context, Context ! We cannot interpret a verse by itself … this is the fundamental rule of interpreting Scriptures.

    Paul in the previous chapters in Romans have established the fact that all man are sinners, both the Jews and the Gentiles. By their “Work” or by the “Law” they cannot save themselves. Paul also established the fact that all men are “Justified by Faith” through the Redemptive Work Of Christ On The Cross. What transpire when Jesus died on the Cross? …. We are “Justified”, we are “Redeemed”, we are “Sanctified”, we are “Made Righteous”, we are “In Christ”, “the old man was crucified with Christ”, Now “In Christ”, we are a New Creation, we are Sons & Daughters of the Living God, we are transferred from the kingdom of Darkness into the kingdom of Light, we are the Light of the world and we are the Salt of the earth.

    Because of Who we are in Christ, How then should a Believer live his life on this earth?
    Should a believer continue to live in sin that grace may abound? (Rom 6:1)  Answer: “No” ! “Certainly Not”. “shall we who died to sin live any longer in it” (Rom 6:1)

    A believer should “reckon himself dead to sin” . A dead man cannot respond to the stimulus of sin. The Adam nature is Crucified, Dead and Buried … Gone Forever. Finished.

    A believer on the other hand should be “Alive to God”
    A believer is now taking control of his own life instead of “sin” controlling his life. ” for sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace”. He should be presenting the members of his body “as instruments of righteousness to God” (Rom 6:13)
    It is in this frame of mind that we should read Rom 8:1-14

    Roman 8:1-14
    As believers, we are told by the Apostle Paul to “live according to the Spirit and not according to the Flesh”.
    vs 1 “There is therefore no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit”.
    Do you see a “Struggle” between the Spirit and the Flesh in these verses? No! The Apostle Paul is just making a statement of truth. Believers “do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit”.
    vs 2 “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death”.
    In Christ, we live in the law of the Spirit of Life. We are “free” from the law of sin and death. This is a life of Freedom & Life and not a life of Bondage & Death.
    vs 4 ” … who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit”.  Paul again affirmed that a believer do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

    Then in Rom 6:5-13, The Apostle Paul differentiate those who live in the flesh and those who live in the Spirit. Those who live in the flesh are Non Believers but those who live according to the Spirit are Believers (In Christ)

    Those who live in the “flesh” …
    “set their minds on things of the flesh” (vs 5)
    ” carnally minded which result in death (vs 6)
    “enmity against God”  (vs 7)
    “cannot please God” (vs 8)
    ” does not have the Spirit of Christ” (vs 9)
    Paul again and again reminded the believers that they are not of the “Flesh” vs 9 ” But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit ..”  Those in the Flesh are Non Believers

    As Christians, we are not debtors to the flesh but to Christ. We are again told “not to live according to the flesh” which brings death; instead, the believer is to put to death the deeds of the body. ( vs 12,13 )

    Is there really a “Struggle” between the Spirit & the Flesh? 
    As I read Romans 8 in its context, I don’t see any “Struggle”.
    The Apostle Paul had very clearly wrote that as believers “we do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Walking in the flesh is not an option for the believer. A believer walks according to the Spirit.

    Total victory over Satan and Sin is achieved at the Cross … the Redemptive Work of Christ.
    It is never about Spirit vs Flesh in the believer’s Life.
    To those who are still “Struggling” … examine what you have believed in the light of Scripture. Truths will set you Free !

    Search the Scripture …
    Acts 17:11
    These were more fair-minded than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness, and searched the Scriptures daily to find out whether these things were so.



  • Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature (My View) Part IV

    In View Of Who He Is “In Christ”, How Should A Christian Lives In This World?

    In the first 4 chapters of Romans, the Apostle Paul wrote about the Total Depravity of Man. All have sinned – Both the Jews and the Gentiles. Man cannot “Justify” themselves … not by “Work” nor by keeping the “Law”. Because of the Sinful Nature that they have inherited from Adam, Man is incapable of keeping the “Law”.

    Then the Apostle Paul goes on to show that “Justification” is by Grace alone. Rom 5:1,2 “therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”

    In Romans Chapter 5, the Apostle Paul listed down the change of “State” when a person puts his faith in the Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross. In my last posting, I have mentioned this –
    He is Justified
    He has Peace with God
    He has access into this Grace
    He is save from wrath
    He is reconciled to God
    He is made righteous
    He has eternal life  ……  This is our “Standing”, “Position”, “State” before God as Christian.

    In Romans Chapter 5, Paul established our “Standing” before God on the basis of the Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross.
    From Romans Chapter 6 onward, the Apostle Paul wrote about, “How as Christians, he “Should” & “Should Not” live in the light of his new found “Standing” in Christ.”

    How Should A Christian live?

    1. He should not continue to live in sin because “we have died to sin”.
    Rom 6: 1,2
    “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly Not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?”
    Paul said that “we have died to sin”. When did this happen? When did we died to sin?
    Paul used Baptism, to illustrate how “we have died to sin”.
    Rom 6:3,4
    “Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into His Death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life”.
    “Sin” is dead in a believer’s life. The sinful nature no longer reside in a believer’s life to control him. Not only does a believer “died to sin” but he is resurrected in “Newness of Life”.
    Rom 6:5
    “For if we have been united together in the likeness of His Death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection”.
    As believers, we should be living the Resurrected Life! A Life of Victory over Sin.

    2. He should not continue to live in sin because “the Old Man is crucified with Christ”.
    Paul used Crucifixion to illustrate that “we have died to sin”.
    Rom 6:6

    “Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin”.
    When we are crucified with Christ, the “Adam Nature” is also crucified with Him. The Sinful Nature that held us slaves to sin, that held us bondage to sin is dead (crucified). Therefore we should no longer be slaves to sin. We should no longer be under the Power of Sin. Vs 7 “Now, he who has died has been freed from sin”.

    3. He should not continue to live in sin because now he should “live unto God”. 
    Rom 6: 10-13
    vs 10 “… the life that He lives, He lives to God”
    vs 11 ” … reckon yourself to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God”
    vs 12 ” … therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body”
    Watchman Nee gave a very apt illustration on this verse “reckon yourself dead indeed to sin”. He said that a dead body does not response to any stimulus. You cannot tempt a dead body … it will not response. Reckon yourself dead to sin … don’t obey it in its lusts.

    ” … but Alive to God”. As Christians, we “reckon ourselves dead to sin” but “Alive to God”. We are to be responsive and sensitive to God. We are to present our members as instruments of righteous to God because we are “alive to God”. But we are not to present our members as instruments of unrighteousness to Sin because we are “Dead to Sin”. (Rom 6:13)

    4. He should not continue to sin because he is no longer under the dominion of Sin.
    Rom 6: 14

    “For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under Law but under Grace”.
    The Power of Sin does not have a hold on believers. The sinful nature is crucified, dead and buried! As believers, we are “dead” to sin but “alive” to God.

    I have from Scripture showed that “The Sinful Nature no longer resides in a Believer’s Body”. The Redemptive Work of Christ have dealt with both the Penalty of Sin and the Power of Sin. As Christian, we can live a life of Total & Complete Victory in Christ.

    I know that many Christians still hold on the view that the “Sinful Nature” is present in the believer. I know many are still teaching this. Many are  still teaching about “Struggling with the Sinful Nature” – “The Black dog vs White dog”.

    My challenge to them is, “Show me from Scripture that the Sinful Nature is not dealt with by the Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross”. Show me from the strength of Scripture that the Sinful Nature is very much alive in a Christian.
    We don’t need to “Struggle”, Victory is already won by Christ!

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  • Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature (My View) Part III

    The Redemptive Work Of Christ On The Cross According To Apostle Paul In The Book Of Romans

    What happened on the Cross of Calvary? What transpired? What was transacted when Jesus died on the Cross? What took place on this momentous event in history that changed the course of Human Race? When Jesus cried, “It Is Finished” … What was “Finished”?

    On this momentous event, witnessed by all the heavenly host in the entire universe … the “Son of God” died.

    To say that the “Redemptive Work of Christ” dealt only with the Penalty of Sin and not the Power of Sin is a Great Let Down!

    To say that the very “Root of Sin” was not eradicated but still remain in a believer … makes the Work of Christ on the Cross “Ineffectual”. “Incomplete”! Jesus should not have cried out “It is Finished” because the “Root of Sin” have not been plucked out and destroyed. There was no Total Victory at the Cross.

    But praise be to God, the above statement is not true … it is a Lie!
    The Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross is Total and Complete! Both the Penalty and the Power of Sin was dealt with on the Cross of Calvary. The Sinful Nature does not reside in a believer’s life anymore.

    The Theme in the Book of Romans is Justification By Faith In The Redemptive Work Of Christ On the Cross.
    What Happen When Jesus Died On The Cross?
    1. We are being Justified.
    Rom 3: 24 “being justified freely by His grace …”
    Rom 5: 1 “Therefore having justified by faith …”
    Rom 5:9 “…having now been justified by His Blood”
    2. We are being Redeemed.
    Rom 3:24 ” … through the Redemption that is in Christ Jesus”
    Eph 1:7 “In Him, we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace”.
    3. The Penalty of Sin have been paid by the Blood of Christ
    Rom 3:25 “Whom God set forth as a Propitiation by His Blood ..”
    “because of His forbearance God had passed over the
    sins that were previously committed”.
    Rom 5:8 “But God demonstrated His love towards us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us”
    4. We are made Righteous in Christ (Abraham’s example of faith in the promise of God – he was made righteous)
    Rom 4:22-24 “And therefore it was accounted to him for
    righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone that it
    was imputed to him, but also for us. It shall be imputed to us
    who believe in Him who raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead”
    Rom 5:19 “For as by one man’s disobedience, many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous”.
    5. We have Peace with God
    Rom 5:1 “Therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    6. We are Reconciled To God
    Rom 5:1o “For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His Life”
    Rom 5:11 ” …through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation”

    As we dive deeper into Scripture, we begin to comprehend the immeasurable rich inheritance we have in Christ. This inheritance is ours because of the Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross.
    Our faith as believers rest on the Redemptive Work of Christ.
    Our “Standing” before God is base on the Redemptive Work of Christ.  Our “Standing” before God does not change because our faith rest on an historical event that had taken place 2,000 years ago on Calvary.

    This is how God sees us in Christ  … Redeemed, Justified, Sanctified, Holy, Righteous, A Child of God, Victorious … and this is how we should see ourselves in Christ. We are a New Creation; People of the Kingdom. Light of the World & Salt of the Earth.

    In my next “Posting”, I will share “How A Believer In Christ Should Be Living In The Light of Who He Is in Christ”.
    If the Root of Sin have not been dealt with … it can never produce good fruit. A bad tree will not produce good fruit neither can a good tree produce bad fruit.

    …. to be continued

    The Cross & The Crown

     

     



  • Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature (My View) Part II

    Does A Christian Still Have A Sinful Nature?

    This is such an important topic that I would like to take this discussion further. Right Believing will result in Right Living … but conversely Wrong Believing will result in Wrong Living. Your believe on the Sinful Nature will determine whether you will live a Victorious Christian Life or a Defeated Christian Life. It will determine whether you will live a life of Freedom or a Life of Struggle and Bondage.

    My Position:
    As Christians, We No Longer Have The Sinful Nature Residing In Us.  

    My only defense for taking this position is “The Redemptive Work Of Christ On The Cross”. I will show from Scripture why the Sinful Nature No Longer Reside In a Believer. The Redemptive Work of Christ on the Cross, dealt not only with the Penalty of Sin but also the Power of Sin.

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    The Letter To The Romans from the Apostle Paul

    In the book of Romans, the Apostle Paul gave a very comprehensive exposition on the Gospel of Salvation.
    An Out-Line on the Book of Romans

    1. Introduction — the gospel of God — 1:1-17
      1. Promised in the Holy Scriptures — vv.1-2
      2. Concerning Christ — vv.3-4
      3. Received by the called ones — vv.5-7
      4. Proclaimed with eagerness and partaken of by faith — vv.8-15
      5. The power of God’s salvation — vv.16-17
    2. Condemnation — 1:18–3:20
      1. On mankind generally — 1:18-32
      2. On the self-righteous particularly — 2:1-16
      3. On the religious specifically — 2:17–3:8
      4. On all the world totally — 3:9-20
    3. Justification — 3:21–5:11
      1. The definition — 3:21-31
      2. The example — 4:1-25
      3. The result — 5:1-11
    4. Sanctification — 5:12–8:13
      1. The gift in Christ surpassing the heritage in Adam — two men, two acts, and two results with four reigning things — 5:12-21
      2. Identification with Christ — 6:1-23
        1. Identified — vv.1-5
        2. Knowing — vv.6-10
        3. Reckoning — v.11
        4. Presenting — vv.12-23
      3. Bondage in the flesh by the indwelling sin — 7:1-25
        1. Two husbands — vv.1-6
        2. Three laws — vv.7-25
      4. Freedom in the Spirit by the indwelling Christ — 8:1-13
        1. The law of the Spirit of life — vv.1-6
        2. The indwelling Christ — vv.7-13
    5. Glorification — 8:14-39
      1. Heirs of glory — vv.14-27
      2. Heirs conformed — vv.28-30
      3. Heirs inseparable from God’s love — vv.31-39
    6. Selection — 9:1–11:36
      1. God’s selection, our destiny — 9:1–10:21
        1. Of God who calls — 9:1-13
        2. Of God’s mercy — 9:14-18
        3. Of God’s sovereignty — 9:19-29
        4. Through the righteousness which is out of faith — 9:30–10:3
        5. Through Christ — 10:4-21
          1. Christ, the end of the law — v.4
          2. Christ, incarnated and resurrected — vv.5-7
          3. Christ, who is near — v.8
          4. Christ, believed in and called upon — vv.9-13
          5. Christ, proclaimed and heard — vv.14-15
          6. Christ, received or rejected — vv.16-21
      2. The economy in God’s selection — 11:1-32
        1. A remnant reserved by grace — vv.1-10
        2. The Gentiles saved through Israel’s stumbling — vv.11-22
        3. Israel restored through the Gentiles’ receiving mercy — vv.23-32
      3. The praise for God’s selection — 11:33-36
    7. Transformation — 12:1–15:13
      1. In practicing the Body life — 12:1-21
        1. By the presenting of our bodies — v.1
        2. By the renewing of the mind — vv.2-3
        3. By the exercising of the gifts — vv.4-8
        4. By the living of a life of the highest virtues — vv.9-21
      2. In being subject to authorities — 13:1-7
      3. In practicing love — 13:8-10
      4. In waging the warfare — 13:11-14
      5. In receiving the believers — 14:1–15:13
        1. According to God’s receiving — 14:1-9
        2. In the light of the judgment seat — 14:10-12
        3. In the principle of love — 14:13-15
        4. For the kingdom life — 14:16-23
        5. According to Christ — 15:1-13
    8. Conclusion — the consummation of the gospel — 15:14–16:27
      1. The Gentiles offered — 15:14-24
      2. The communication between the Gentile and Jewish saints — 15:25-33
      3. The concern between the churches — 16:1-24
      4. The concluding praise — 16:25-27

    Through the book of Romans, I will show that God has not only delivered us from the Penalty of Sin but also the Power of Sin.

    … to be continued



  • Did The Apostle Paul Struggle With The Sinful Nature

    Did the Apostle Paul Struggle With The SinFul Nature?

    Rom 7: 18 – 24 ( This passage is often quoted by those who advocated that Christian still have the Sinful Nature in them )
    vs 19 “For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not do, that I practice.”
    vs 20 “Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me”
    vs 21 “I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who will to do good”
    vs 22 “For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man.”
    vs 23 “But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members”
    vs 24 “O wretched man that I am ! Who will deliver me from this body of death?”

    The advocates of “Sinful Nature” will stop here and declare that even the Apostle Paul struggled with “Sinful Nature”. They stop at the Struggle but they did not carry on reading to see the Deliverance.
    Who will Deliver Me? The Answer is Jesus Our Lord !
    vs 25 “I thank God – through Jesus Christ our Lord! ( I wish I could highlight this) So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin”
    Rom 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.”
    vs 2 ” For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death”. Hallelujah “In Christ” , I have been “made free from the law of sin and death”.
    Knowing the “Truth” will set us Free !

    Paul's Struggle